Ohio deer hunting customers take notice - this may effect you!!!

One of the most asked questions HBBS LLC gets is , “ IS HBBS 410 ga ALLOWABLE HUNTING EQUIPMENT?” My answer to this has always been - contact the ODNR and review the current regulations on ALLOWABLE HUNTING EQUIPMENT.

As I was reviewing this year’s regulations, a rule new to me was found, effective July 1 2010, all metallic shotgun cases are now unlawful to be used during Ohio deer gun season!!! HBBS 410 ga. BRASS IS NOW UNLAWFUL in Ohio. If you can’t find this regulation in the current Ohio hunting guide book, you will need to search Ohio Administrative Code section 1501:31-15-11. I would advise everyone to review the Ohio Administrative codes, there may be other regulations there that you don't know about; being ignorant of the law is no excuse to violate it!!

HBBS LLC has contacted the ODNR about the metallic shotgun case regulation, I wanted to know how a standard metallic shotgun case could be used to break Ohio game laws???? No recorded answer to why the regulation was passed by the ODNR could be found. A speculative answer was given but since it was not supported by records I will not repeat it here. It is important that no recorded reason could be found, the regulation simply makes metallic shotgun cases unlawful without a reason. Possibly the ODNR will find a recorded reason behind the regulation and share it with HBBS LLC, if that happens I will let you all know. The question here is how can a standard shotgun hull, be used in a standard shotgun to violate a game regulation???????? Shotguns and shotgun slug ammunition are allowable hunting equipment. so why ban metallic shotgun cases?

Now we face the question is any HBBS LLC 410 ga. product allowable hunting equipment? I asked the ODNR this Question myself after finding that the metallic HBBS 410 brass cartridge was now unlawful. ODNR is now working on the answer!! When we receive the answer I will share that information with every one. As I understand the regulations on allowable hunting equipment, 410 ga. is legal and rifled barrels are legal, but that does not mean HBBS LLC rifled 410 is legal. I’m not sure how the ODNR interprets allowable hunting regulations or how the regulations could exclude HBBS LLC products from being legal, but given the fact ODNR has made HBBS LLC brass unlawful I can’t predict one way or the other if the HBBS 410 is allowable hunting equipment.

I’m making an effort to answer the question, “is the HBBS Rifled 410 ga legal or not for deer hunting in Ohio?” Hopefully, it will be allowed since it was built to allowable hunting specifications based on ODNR regulations prior to and including 2010 but there is simply no real way to judge what the ODNR may determine. ODNR may determine that the HBBS 410 is simply too good of a shotgun for Ohio deer hunters to use. They may determine some type of imagined conflict between the HBBS 410 and other game regulations. ODNR may ignore all the facts related to the HBBS 410 as being a rifled shotgun, SAAMI specifications and ATF regulations regarding rifled shotguns could be completely ignored. ODNR may claim HBBS 410 circumvents the no rifle rule in Ohio!!! My point is just because I designed the HBBS 410 by the rules does not mean ODNR will allow it!!! Like I said before we are now waiting for the OFFICIAL DETERMINATION.

I urge everyone interested in HBBS products, or anyone who owns HBBS products to contact the ODNR, Let them know you expect to be allowed to use a rifled 410. Rifled 410 has been legal for years even though no commercial manufacturer was producing a rifled 410 ga. Now that HBBS LLC is commercially selling a rifled 410 and ammo for that rifled 410, ODNR has issues???

Best Regards,

Ed Hoening